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7:47 am November 20, 2011
| James
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Defiant Occupy Oakland protesters seize 'new home'
Demonstrators rip down chain-link fence and set up new base only days after police dismantled another site
Protesters marched to the lot and tore down a chain-link fence before pitching tents as a light rain started
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45…..news-life/
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8:54 am November 20, 2011
| John
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civil disobedience.
The photo near the bottom of the article, showing police using pepper spray on protestors who are sitting down, is powerful.
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10:48 am November 20, 2011
| MrBill
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Post edited 10:51 am – November 20, 2011 by MrBill
No John…It is trespassing..Someone owns that property..They took the fence down and went on the property..That is trespassing..Same as when they broke into that Vacant Building in Washington, D.C…That is trespassing also..If 5 or 10 of my friends went to your house to protest you and we went on your property and in your house would that be civil disobedience? Would you want my friends and I arrested for doing so? I bet you would.
You can delete this post if you want but I think you have to agree with me.
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11:10 am November 20, 2011
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MrBill said:
No John…It is trespassing..Someone owns that property..They took the fence down and went on the property..That is trespassing..Same as when they broke into that Vacant Building in Washington, D.C…That is trespassing also..
Didn't say it wasn't trespassing. Civil disobedience can take the form of trespassing.
If 5 or 10 of my friends went to your house to protest you and we went on your property and in your house would that be civil disobedience? Would you want my friends and I arrested for doing so?
Good questions. Is there a difference between invading a private home/yard and taking over a park and vacant lot? Sounds like you'd say no, and that's fine.
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11:56 am November 20, 2011
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John said:
MrBill said:
No John…It is trespassing..Someone owns that property..They took the fence down and went on the property..That is trespassing..Same as when they broke into that Vacant Building in Washington, D.C…That is trespassing also..
Didn't say it wasn't trespassing. Civil disobedience can take the form of trespassing.
If 5 or 10 of my friends went to your house to protest you and we went on your property and in your house would that be civil disobedience? Would you want my friends and I arrested for doing so?
Good questions. Is there a difference between invading a private home/yard and taking over a park and vacant lot? Sounds like you'd say no, and that's fine.
There is a difference. I think people who invade other peoples private property make the movement look bad. The Constitution does not put any restrictions on any locations that the people may peacefully assemble, but does protect private property so any public street or area is subject to protest. Why invade someones private property and give them a reason to resent the movement. If youre going to step over boundaries and tear down a fence and sleep on someones yard then get some balls and do it on the steps of city hall or on the mayors front lawn, not on a fellow citizens private property. I support OWS but there are alot of individuals out there making bad decisions thats hurting the movement.
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1:32 pm November 20, 2011
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I guess I don't get why they need somewhere to sit up a tent city, Are most of these people from out of town? I guess they don't work because they cant go from there. Why cant they protest all they want, when they want, down every public street and in every goverment building. Then get in there car or catch the bus or train home. Is it the conflict that they want to make the 5;30 news? In my opion- Protest anytime just stay off the grass, Dont slow me down getting home after I worked all day. Dont make it where I dont want to take my kids to everyones park because you are liveing in it. After that im cool!
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