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6:32 pm November 2, 2011
| platosapology
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Hello everyone,
There is no reason the occupy Houston couldn't be as large as any other city. Due to the media blackout no one knows if the movement is still alive. This should be the main focus at the moment. This site is not user friendly…this should also be a priority. Has anyone thought about a grass roots effort to gain support? There are numerous businesses that would lend their support. Any members here have the expertise to help?
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11:24 pm November 2, 2011
| John
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Any suggestions on improving the user-friendliness of the site?
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12:05 pm November 3, 2011
| tonyiommi
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I ride my bike alot at night, when I ride by the park y'all are sitting at the end that is below street level – as a result no one can see you. It is retarded to blame a "media blackout" when you sit below grade so no one can possibly see you, move to a more visible location and don't put 100 words on a 2' x 3' sign so it is illegible to passersby. The movement is 20-30 people from what I see and that is probably why you get little attention. If y'all can't even protest correctly how do y'all expect to get jobs which you supposedly clamor for?
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5:31 pm November 3, 2011
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tonyiommi, I second your concerns about the location being below grade and somewhat inconspicuous. And yes, making signs legible is very important. Even if i'm not an artist, I can at least make the writing thick and heavy, rather than thin and spindly. Not sure how we're doing on decent markers. Anyway, thanks for the constructive feedback.
FYI, my question (and platosapology's comments, I assume) related to the Web site, not the physical occupation place.
Also, when you say platosapology "…is retarded to blame a 'media blackout' when you sit below grade…," you're assuming that he has been to the location or is at least aware of what the location is like. I don't know if he is or not.
Again, though, I definitely hear you about the location. Thanks, and stop by sometime on one of your rides.
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6:02 am November 10, 2011
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oh wow, yeah great suggestions, maybe you should come out and implement some . oh wait, you're not out there dealing with the elements and police and ongoing meetings and assemblies, and YES marches and outreach programs to get people involved.
POINT: just like with the suggestions of making the website easier to use — we need volunteers to do all these amazing suggestions, not just the oomph of your massive intellect reaching out through the aether. Come out if you have so many great ideas! We need more people to implement ideas.
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10:24 am November 10, 2011
| tonyiommi
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Cassie, I own my own business and am part of The 53%, too damn busy keeping it running. Have jobs open, just need qualified applicants with superior work ethic.
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11:05 am November 10, 2011
| Ramsingh
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I had a problem earlier reading a PM someone sent me. I could read part of it so I had to guess at the rest.
I find it amusingly retarded that some folks have no problem with spending their time perusing this forum, making comments, have easy access to be at the physical location where OC is gathering, do have points of view, albeit in a condesending tone but have no time to attend, speak, guide or even mentor. What does it matter if you have figured out how to claw up to the middle of the pyramid if you have nothing to share with the youth.
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11:39 am November 10, 2011
| gregg74701
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At the chance of being called "retarded" I will post here anyway,
A lot of people support this movement. Some get on this forum and post, some send money, some make flyers, some march, some actually occupy… there is a place for everyone here. Not being onsite doesnt mean they dont care. See, this is why movements dont grow and dissolve. In fighting doesnt help any of us gain ground. All of you are correct in your statements but you CANNOT put people down for not being onsite. Some of us have good ideas, some of us give a % of our paychecks to wepay, some of us drop off coffee…etc. Before we start throwing rocks at each other we may want to define what support is. We, most of us, support fairness. Thats why we are here. Thats why, even tho we may not be able to physically be there, we lend our voice, our money, our time. Those that are down there all the time can and will become complacent, its only natural when the 20 or so stay the 20 or so but there are 20X that many people out here that believe in what you are doing and will SUPPORT you. When you start alienating those that are trying to defend you then you will find 20 staying 20. Dont think we, the ones that cant occupy, arent defending what your doing. Family, friends, co workers…personally I am ALWAYS discussing Occupy. Its amazing how many people dont even know what or why your doing what your doing. I send people to this forum all the time to read up on whats going on and hoping they will get involved in their area. When they get on here and see that we are cdalling each other out for not doing this or not doing that then they get turned off. They expect the ones trying to stir the pot, the nay sayers that post here but when they see supporters going at each other, calling each other retarded, and questioning someones motives then they loose interest fast.
Ive only been on this forum about a week or so. I have been downtown 2 times. I have donated money. I have brought coffee, I have made numerous suggestions. I have been on conferance calls with other Occupy movements around the country and trying to get an idea of how to proceed in a way that is coordinated with the rest of the groups. We have a direct action meeting Sat. the 12th at 5 pm in the park. Those of you on this forum should show up. Lets put all our ideas together, find something we can agree to do in order to help this thing grow. If we start putting our heads together and stop trying to blame each other then WE will facilitate the growth of OH. Please show up Saturday at 5pm at the park for the Direct Action group meeting.
Stay civil and stay united
Greg
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stay civil stay united
Greg
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11:52 am November 10, 2011
| Ramsingh
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Post edited 12:12 pm – November 10, 2011 by Ramsingh
Please be advised, I used the word retarded as I read it above in the post I replied to.
I agree with your point Greg. However, it is in my nature to come to the defense when I see bullying. Subliminally or otherwise.
I also agree that for some, their support may only be from leaving comments in this forum. I just don't see why someone would consistently be so negative in the way they express their views unless it is their intent to cripple the idea of OH.
With that said, I will be there Saturday. 
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12:19 pm November 10, 2011
| Ramsingh
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In response to the OP, I have been thinking that maybe putting clips on Youtube might be a good way to get the message out. What about including HCC or Lone Star college somehow? Maybe this is being done already but if not I think it might be worth a try.
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1:49 pm November 10, 2011
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Ramsingh,
I have also had problems with the PM system….I wonder if anyone can fix this? Hopefully that was not a deliberate move on the part of Occupy.
There is a need for mentoring type personalities with wisdom and experience at Occupy, on the site at all times. I would like to see people of various decades….including people in their 50's up into every decade. Last night someone on the site assumed she was much older than me (it was dark) and sort of talked to me in a condescending way….a little funny. We also need youngsters that can appreciate what people much older than they have to offer.
Unfortunately, based on personality type psychology/theory, I am not a leading kind of person and may mentor one on one with someone very bright, but not a group. My personality works closely with leaders very well, that are open and comprehending the scope of what I have to share. So far, it seems, this movement does not value leaders except for Adbusters ads as the leader….sort of like the Great Almighty Wizard from the Wizard of Oz. Unfortunately Adbusters is in part funded by the 1%, so Occupy needs to be careful not to become their puppets and fully investigate anything they are suggesting before acting on it. All that information came out before this OHS system changed to the sign in system. Why it was not brought forward with all the supporting links I do not know.
What time will you be there Saturday? I was not planning on being there that day, but I would like to meet you.
You have a lot of good ideas and you can relate to youth. Hope you can help shape the movement in a meaningful direction. Best wishes.
~Katie
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1:50 pm November 10, 2011
| gregg74701
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Good idea, the more colleges, trade schools, young people in general is a great idea. Im sure we will discuss some of these Saturday. We should each grab a sector that we feel strongly about and GO GET THEM! lol .. Ive been attempting to get some support for a Sunday March on a church(s). Getting the clergy involved (as well they should be) is one way of bringing in some attention. Promise you, 200 people show up at a Mr. Joel Osteens church on Sunday carrying signs (he is televised), that would generate some attention. Getting local business to support us too is another way. What OH needs is bodies…We just have to educate people on what the message(s) is. You have to appeal to what people ALREADY feel. Its difficult to "make" people feel something they dont. If you hit them with something they already feel strongly about then they are more apt to get in line with you. Religious leaders constantly preach about the 'least of us" they ask for donations to feed the poor, they (some) do good works for the homeless the vets, etc… If you (us) can convince them that this a good vehicle to use to get their message across then youll gain support from them. If they support you then your LESS likely to see HPD tearing down your tarps!
Another idea? Getting local business to put up signs that show support. We have to convince them that there are more of us out here that would visit their establishment if we knew they supported us. Maybe a "shop occupy movement"? We can encourage the 99% to shop at those stores that have the signs. Once they start popping up we will get some coverage.
Just throwing things out there. Which is what we need to do on Saturday…No idea is a bad idea. We need them all and then we can prioritize them and then ACT!
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stay civil stay united
Greg
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1:58 pm November 10, 2011
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Gregg,
I think you have a lot to offer and I am sure we could move mountains together. I don't like Lakewood, but at this time I still respectfully disagree about marching on any religious organization.
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2:09 pm November 10, 2011
| Ramsingh
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Post edited 3:03 pm – November 10, 2011 by Ramsingh
I should be there Sat. around 4pm. Thanks for those words Katie. I believe we have a lot to learn from each other and if we can stay open minded to new ideas then there is hope for change. When we all realize the young have much to offer and the elders do too, together it can be a thing of beauty.
I can get some fliers passed out at HCC South Loop but not until this Monday. Anybody know where I could get these printed up for a nominal fee?
Keep inspiring.
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2:59 pm November 10, 2011
| gregg74701
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Thats the best part of this movement Katie, We all dont have to agree on the next step…we just have to take them.

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stay civil stay united
Greg
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6:18 pm November 10, 2011
| collectedfunk
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Ok first. The snide reply by Admin shows great immaturity. Its like a comeback from a teenager. I just got back from Oakland on Monday. We were there On Nov2 in the thick of it. It felt like people cared. I will tell you that in San Fran, instead of occupying downtown, they occupied the financial district. Like our Galleria area. To show that commercialism is not helping. I am planning to come to the Occupy Houston and aid in anyway i can. We believe this movement can work and will.
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