Post edited 6:01 am – November 15, 2011 by ironboltbruce
IBM, HITLER AND THE HOLOCAUST: A TERRIBLE TALE OF CAPITALISM WITHOUT CONSCIENCE
Global Revolution 1: American Revolution 2: Day 60: Communication 1
IronBoltBruce's Kleptocracy Chronicles for 15 Nov 2011 (g1a2d0060c1)
How many examples of greed and corruption must you see before you act?
This is taken from "Six million and counting", written by Peter Preston for The Observer, Saturday 17 February 2001:
Hitler's Holocaust was happening anyway. With IBM's help, it was easier, as Edwin Black demonstrates in [his book entitled] 'IBM and the Holocaust'
You thought, perhaps, that there was nothing fresh left to write about the Holocaust. Think, sadly, again. Edwin Black, a dedicated, even driven, researcher, has a new charge sheet to present. It shows, in compelling detail, that IBM, 'the solutions company', was also the company of the Final Solution.
How did Hitler, from 1933 on, find, herd and exterminate millions of his Jewish victims with such sickening precision? Easy. IBM, through its German subsidiary, Dehomag, ran his censuses and surveys on its unique punch-card tabulators. It provided the vital infrastructure for persecution and the the silence of the gas chambers. What is more, it knew exactly what it was doing.
Thomas Watson, the chief executive who built one of America's greatest international enterprises, did not receive the Merit Cross of the German Eagle for nothing, but for services knowingly rendered. Watson is the villain of this piece. He was a classic American success story, the sewing-machine salesman who became corporate emperor, president of the International Chamber of Commerce and chum of FDR, but also a covert admirer of the Third Reich who peddled his hanging chads with fawning eagerness.
There is no scope for doubt. Black has a relentless flow of memos, letters and speeches. When Watson wrote in 1937 (long after his punch cards had begun their whirring work) that the world 'must extend a sympathetic understanding to the German people and their aims under the leadership of Adolf Hitler', he had the clearest knowledge of what those aims entailed.
His fractious underling at the Dehomag subsidiary put it yet more chillingly: 'We are very much like physicians,' he told his Nazi audience, 'in that we dissect, cell by cell, the German cultural body… these are not dead little cards; quite to the contrary, they prove later on that they come to life when they are sorted at 25,000 an hour according to certain characteristics.'
As the war took hold, Watson found himself trapped between a PR rock and a ruthless hard place. He sent his medal back and disavowed his German clients, but he still kept the tabulators turning, still gathered the profits, was still on hand as the conflict ended to turn Dehomag into IBM Germany and go marching on. That, in a sense, is all you need to know. It is a distinctive contribution to the history of the time. It wholly justifies Black's years of toil. At such a distance, however, the reader inevitably looks for understanding beyond the damning facts, for a more contemporary relevance to set multinational America wriggling uneasily in its chair. Such parallels are easy enough to construct.
'Watson was no fascist. He was pure capitalist. But the horseshoe of political economics finds little distance between extremities. Accretion of wealth by and for the state under a strong autocratic leader fortified by jingoism and hero-worship was appealing to Watson. After all, his followers wore uniforms, sang songs and were expected to display unquestioned loyalty to the company he led.'…
The facts (to reiterate) speak for themselves. Hitler would have had his Holocaust without IBM's willing efforts, but it would have been a longer, less clinically efficient business. IBM helped the trains to his concentration camps run on time, spewed out the cards for slave labour and watched its stock-market majesty grow. It was the backbone of Auschwitz and Roosevelt's first social security programme, a 'service industry' which existed to serve whoever paid the bill and not to make moral judgments until forced to confront them.
By way of custom of international law, genocide, crimes against humanity, and war crimes are usually not subject to statute of limitations, nor to prescription. This custom has been codified in a number of multilateral treaties. States that ratify the Convention on the Non-Applicability of Statutory Limitations to War Crimes and Crimes Against Humanity agree to not allow limitations claims for these crimes. Article 29 of the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court states that genocide, crimes against humanity, and war crimes "shall not be subject to any statute of limitations".
SHOW ME WHAT KLEPTOCRACY LOOKS LIKE! THIS IS WHAT KLEPTOCRACY LOOKS LIKE!
Kleptocracy [klep-TOK-ruh-see]: A government or state in which those in power exploit national resources and steal; rule by a thief or thieves. See also the United States of America where, as Goethe said, "None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." Want documented examples of the corporate greed that corrupts our government and fuels the Revolution? Find dozens here, with more to come:
IT IS NO COINCIDENCE THAT OF THE LAST 14 U.S. PRESIDENTS, 7 HAVE BEEN DEMOCRATS AND 7 HAVE BEEN REPUBLICANS.
Our Kleptocracy-controlled media focuses on America's two-year election cycles as if who wins or loses in the swinging of the pendulum was a matter of life or death, when in fact even at the Presidential level it makes no more difference than the outcomes of Monday Night Football, American Idol, Dancing With The Stars, Hillbilly Handfishing or the trial of Michael Jackson's doctor. U.S. elections are staged primarily to give Sheeple the illusion of control so they will (a) vent their frustrations and expend their energy, emotions and resources supporting or attacking the Puppet on the Left hand or the Puppet on the Right, and consequently (b) never recognize and challenge the common omnipotent Puppetmaster.
There was no real change in 2008. There was no real change in 2010. There WILL be real change in 2012, but it won't be coming from tele-brainwashed couch potatoes, manipulated voter lists, rigged voting machines or predetermined ballot counts. It will be coming from us…
The Washington Post does contain interesting articles and sometimes impressively long…or not so succinct. The one you provided was from 1998. Apparently the attornies did not make their case.
It is doubtful the Nazi regime would have made IBM privy to its nasty plan. In fact, Nazis were probably concerned about giving any of their plan away, assuming IBM had the potential for spying on them but wanting IBM technology. Espionage of this form has happened for years and there was no reason for Hitler to trust IBM with any more information than necessary.
Punched card systems existed in 1725. Given Germany's engineering capacity for techonology, I am sure they would have used them either way. At that point in history, what was the best way to spy on the enemy if they could choose between your product and someone elses?
If we are going to suppose and lead others to believe we know what IBM and Hitler spoke of behind the scenes, outside a basic business transaction, it begins to sound like conspiracy theory. If the CIA thought IBM was commiting traitor like acts, then that information would likely be available today. Given the circumstances and past history, CIA most likely insisted on having people working in IBM, accessing records and communicating with the Nazis, TRYING to find out information. It also made them privy of the techology the Nazis were able to exercise…this is very important information during a war.
Not jumping into the war right away also helped the USA gather information on what was going on in Germany, to what extent they could. This was strategic.
If you want to return to the mentality exercised by paranoia of The Red Scare, then so be it. But the behavior and theory is no better than that of the Nazis. I don't want to be associated with any of you, because the high drama is lacking content and integrity; that is not admirable. But, please, feel free to find an attorney willing to be pro bono on this case and prove me wrong and then you can force feed me one of those greasy heavy nasty German sausages.
That was indeed enlightening, unfortunately or fortunately, depending upon how you look at it; it is good to have the facts. Thank you for providing good supportive material without drama.
"The use of forced and slave labor in Germany, including at Ford-Werke, was wrong and cannot be justified," Rintamaki said. "In looking back, it must be remembered that all companies operating in Germany at that time had to use labor provided by the German government, and that the Nazi regime chose to provide forced and slave laborers to industry. By being open and honest about the past, even when we find the subject reprehensible, we hope to contribute toward a better understanding of this period of history
Regarding the process, Dowler said, "I conducted an independent three-year analysis of the objectives, methods and results of the research effort. Ford Motor Company has not only fulfilled its original promise 'to find out what happened,' but has traveled an extra mile in doing so." Reich verified the integrity of the report. "I believe that the outstanding effort of a dedicated staff of professionals has yielded a report that offers honest answers to sensitive questions," he said. "It is a credible example of a company accepting and implementing the code of corporate social responsibility regarding a most delicate issue." The company is donating the documents compiled for this project, along with a searchable database, to the Benson Ford Research Center at Henry Ford Museum & Greenfield Village, where they will be available for research."
Looks like, in the second link, Ford was somewhat non-compliant with the regime, trying to hold on, probably hoping the turmoil of the regime to be short. They were definitely not trusted by the Nazis. Based on the reading, who knows if they had American expatriates were there at that point or not, but certainly they had some contact with the USA and hopefully they were a good source of info on the country as well.
More importantly, I also wonder what the overall outcome was there for people forced into slavery….were their chances increased to live? If the regime benefitted by trained slaves, they were more likely to be kept alive and healthy and survive through the war? What were their living conditions? Were they fed generously, sufficient, or poorly? Hopefully Ford made a significant effort to treat them well compared to other nasty locations. Regardless, it is all horrific, no matter how you look at it. Ugly.
I do recall talking with one American man, years ago, and he was telling me how he was working an engineering contact role in Germany, and did not share that he knew the language so he could hear more in meetings.
Post edited 5:11 pm – November 26, 2011 by ironboltbruce
As the originator of this thread, allow me to remind all contributors that its purpose was to provide another example of what can happen when the capitalist greed for money and the political need for power are allowed to unite. History offers no examples of where this unholy alliance resulted in an unqualified contribution to the good of all Humankind.
IBM, like ALL megacorps we have researched to date, puts profit before people. IBM IS GUILTY OF KNOWINGLY ASSISTING GENOCIDE, "Katie", or whatever your real name is. So you can stop the diversionary spin. Unless, of course, your masters would like us to bring the story forward with more unthinkable details about what Big Blue has done over the years to turn a buck…